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переписка долбоеба с forumsmotri и camshowhub админом, рипнуть их сайт да и дело в концом.
Цитата: kai12
Someone know how to see the preview of a show on camshowhub without subscription?
3 options:
- active ownership (having a profile linked to it)
- active volume
- active subscription
Цитата: Иван Фалафель
@camshowhub
guys, if i buy a volume account, can i share it with guys here so they can at least see screenshots?
Did you read the TOS? we don't mention account sharing for a reason, that being: we don't care and also can't care, as everything is anonymous.
But two things to keep in mind:
- we might don't know who uses an account, but we do log account usage, meaning if an account exceeds a certain request threshold in a certain time-frame, the system deems them scraper and bans them.
- if the quota of a volume is depleted, it's not considered active anymore and looses the ability to see anything.
But other than that, feel free.
@cmshowhb, guys, earlier version of hub had download counter. is it possible to return it? would be useful to see which video is worth to open, which not.
To be honest, download stats doesn't tell anything about how good a video is, so we thought getting rid of them would be better.
For an example: some people simply download everything of one model, does that make every video of that model worth download? yes and no, for the person who likes this model particular yes, for everybody else maybe not, but because all videos can show up in different contexts, it's harder to see if some videos were downloaded in a batch or targeted.
But we are planning on some kind of rating system, so that people can rate a video but not thumbs up or down in general but instead on some categories for that video.
well, when counter is the only thing how to order vids, it is better than nothing. imho, your example is particular case but in long distance counter would be useful (and it was  ). anyway, looking forward for ur rating system.
@cmshowhb, guys, earlier version of hub had download counter. is it possible to return it? would be useful to see which video is worth to open, which not.
@karbafos,
To be honest, download stats doesn't tell anything about how good a video is, so we thought getting rid of them would be better.
For an example: some people simply download everything of one model, does that make every video of that model worth download? yes and no, for the person who likes this model particular yes, for everybody else maybe not, but because all videos can show up in different contexts, it's harder to see if some videos were downloaded in a batch or targeted.
But we are planning on some kind of rating system, so that people can rate a video but not thumbs up or down in general but instead on some categories for that video.
Цитата: Porhe
@cmshowhb, Благодарю за ваши ответы!!! Вы потратили много времени, пресс- конференцию с вами прочитает большое количество форумчан и бесконечное количество наших гостей. В результате продажи Премиум Аккаунтов на camshowhub должны взлететь вверх.
Желаю удачи Вам и Совершенства camshowhub!!!
Thank you for your answers !!! You spent a lot of time, a press conference with you will read a large number of members of the forum and an infinite number of our guests
You are welcome.
This was meant as a response to your questions which maybe some other had as well, but not as a real ad for us.
As a result, the sales of Premium Accounts on the camshowhub should soar up.
That is not related to population, rather than that we only use Bitcoin.
I wish good luck to you and Perfection camshowhub !!!
Thanks, we are just getting started ;)
Sorry, I just thought it would be more comfortable if it's already translated, my bad.
thanks for creating an account.
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We do not have permanent accounts, as this could be used to exploit the service.
We could provide you with a volume account, but as already mentioned, if it is completely exhausted, it becomes useless and can no longer be used to view thumbnails.
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We always care about feedback.
We use Bitcoin because, as already mentioned, this is legally less problematic, Bitcoin has cheaper fees, and we automate everything and using credit card payments, there is always something you need to do manually.
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We were not offended, we just wanted to make sure, everybody knows what we do and why.
We thought about making accounts extensible, but because we have no login or password reset, having account around forever could end up in you getting hacked, because there is no way to change the credentials.
We are working on a way to link old accounts to new ones to merge download histories (which is also planned to be account type independent).
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All previous email addresses have been blocked.
If you write to us on twitter, we will respond.
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Цитата: Porhe
Цитата: cmshowhb
спасибо за создание учетной записи.
@cmshowhb, Добро пожаловать на наш форум!!!
-Как давно вы о нём знаете и как часто посещали?
-Вы начали записи вебкам моделей в конце 2015 года, а мы узнали о вас только в июле 2017 года, почему в начале вашей работе получился такой большой перерыв?
-Перебои в вашей работе в августе, сентябре, октябре 2017 года - это результаты хакерских атак вашего основного конкурента Upstore.net?
-Я заметил что вы и ваш конкурент не записывает 100% трансляций вебкам моделей, Например реально она работала 6 часов а выкладывается только 4 часа или какой то день вообще пропускается. Это делается из экономии или просто технически невозможно всё записать?
-Интуиция мне подсказывает что вы изначально русскоязычны, но работа на таком ресурсе как ваш, заставляет быть осторожным и шифроваться?
P.S. Если какие то вопросы покажутся неудобными, не отвечайте на них.
Я надеюсь что не обидел вас сравнением с инопланетянами и марсианами в своём комментарии, когда мы поняли что вы ответили нам таким оригинальным способом на своём ресурсе.)))
Thanks.
-How long have you known about him and how often you visited?
I assume you mean how long we know about this forum, right?
Well, since google indexed it ;) so maybe a month or two.
-You started writing webcam models at the end of 2015, and we learned about you only in July 2017, why did you get such a big break at the beginning of your work?
Because we intentionally did not plan to even make a website at all, we started out of curiosity, if it is possible to gather so much, once we started gathering we noticed what huge demands would lay ahead and thought this would be a great opportunity to develop new systems which are capable of this.
For example, we develop our own database engine to have a error resilient (i know ironic, considering it already died 3 times) and always on database, our own filesystem which you can think of as a multi-server endless tar compressed archive to save space and we break with nearly every best practice that is around.
So for us, this is a really big sandbox (but don't get it wrong, we have staging system in place, to only deploy production ready patches/updates).
But the reason why we started csh is a whole other, we think the whole branch is kinda broken. There are huge amounts of recorded shows out there that every site takes advantage of, except that, the models (who actually created the content) have absolutely no benefit from it, they can't decide to take it offline, nor get any revenue out of it.
Some care for their privacy, some just try to make it a good paid job.
And being a webcam model isn't that easy afterall, so why not try to make it at least a bit easier for them.
And if you ever tried to find a show that you either watched, or missed, as a user, finding it, isn't that easy.
Also do most site degrade the quality of the videos to a point where it's not funny anymore.
So we thought about how we could challenge all these aspects to find a balance between the demands of the models and for example you, as the visitors, but making it in a way, that we are actually capable of creating such service and tada! csh was born.
So in the end csh could be a win-win-win situation, at least we hope that this will be our final goal.
And think about it kinda like Spotify, before Spotify was around, people tend to download music left and right, but once there was a place with a reasonable price and a huge collection, pirated music downloads dipped totally.
That's kinda the idea for csh in a nutshell.
-The skews in your work in August, September, October, 2017 are the results of hacker attacks of your main competitor Upstore.net?
I am not a 100% sure I understand what you are referring to, domain name changes? Loss of chaturbate shows?
Until now, we haven't got hacked a single time (but yes, we have a ton of hackers trying to)
Our database system is actually creating us the most problems.
-I noticed that you and your competitor do not record 100% of the webcasting of models, For example, it really worked for 6 hours and only 4 hours are laid out or some day is skipped. Is this done out of savings or is it simply impossible to write everything down technically?
As far as we know, our completion rate is far beyond every other site.
There are quite a few reason why we sometimes miss something.
Just think about the scale we run on, little errors can have a massive impact, so it's possible that our systems sometimes mess up (we run quite stable now, but this increased by time, when we started it wasn't as stable as it is now) the webcam site could have messed up.
We have multiple servers in multiple locations that need to get load balanced just to gather that much data, not to mention all the other processes needed.
-Intuition tells me that you are initially Russian-speaking, but working on such a resource as yours, makes you be cautious and encrypted?
Nope, I am not Russian, but yes, we do care about our privacy.
I hope that I did not offend you by comparison with aliens and Martians in your commentary, when we realized that you answered us in such an original way on your resource.)))
That was actually quite funny, but we expected it to be like that ;)
I am sorry for the lengthy answer, but questions like this aren't answered that easy.
Cheers
@cmshowhb, Добро пожаловать на наш форум!!!
-Как давно вы о нём знаете и как часто посещали?
-Вы начали записи вебкам моделей в конце 2015 года, а мы узнали о вас только в июле 2017 года, почему в начале вашей работе получился такой большой перерыв?
-Перебои в вашей работе в августе, сентябре, октябре 2017 года - это результаты хакерских атак вашего основного конкурента Upstore.net?
-Я заметил что вы и ваш конкурент не записывает 100% трансляций вебкам моделей, Например реально она работала 6 часов а выкладывается только 4 часа или какой то день вообще пропускается. Это делается из экономии или просто технически невозможно всё записать?
-Интуиция мне подсказывает что вы изначально русскоязычны, но работа на таком ресурсе как ваш, заставляет быть осторожным и не показывать этого?
P.S. Если какие то вопросы покажутся неудобными, не отвечайте на них.
Я надеюсь что не обидел вас сравнением с инопланетянами и марсианами в своём комментарии, когда мы поняли что вы ответили нам таким оригинальным способом на своём ресурсе.)))
cmshowhb 3 августа 2018 13:55
Hey
let's hope that the translated isn't that bad.
спасибо за создание учетной записи.
Цитата: Porhe
Цитата: Rarus
Охуеть чё я нашел на camshowhub:
Просто кликнул по ссылке пользователя Schut #3546
Молодец что обратил внимание. Это как послание нам инопланетян из космоса, что есть жизнь на Марсе!))) Может @D-Pulse с ними свяжется, даст написавшему это VIP а они ему постоянный Премиум Аккаунт?
P.S. А-ууу camshowhub, сделайте пожалуйста возможность покупки Премиума напрямую пластиковой картой, без заморочек с покупкой биткоинов!!!)))
У нас нет постоянных учетных записей, так как это может использоваться для использования сервиса.
Мы могли бы предоставить вам учетную запись тома, но, как уже упоминалось, если она полностью исчерпана, она становится бесполезной и больше не может использоваться для просмотра эскизов.
Цитата: orwell1984
@Rarus, это camshowhub ответили Ивану Фалафелю и форуму про индексацию, оптимизацию (и может что еще, я пока лишь бегло пробежался). Хотели написать тут, но регистрация закрыта. Я как-нибудь в свободное время может переведу вкратце их главные утверждения, если нужен перевод.
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Цитата: Porhe
Может @D-Pulse с ними свяжется, даст написавшему это VIP а они ему постоянный Премиум Аккаунт?
P.S. А-Ууу camshowhub, сделайте пожалуйста возможность покупки Премиума напрямую пластиковой картой, без заморочек с покупкой биткоинов!!!)))
Еще полностью не прочел то что camshowhub ответили, но видно что ему важно получать отзывы. Насчет постоянного премиум аккаунта - ты бы там смайл поставил, а то эту очень плохую идею могут воспринять всерьез. Насчет покупки кредитной картой - думаю что им гораздо легче обходиться анонимным методом оплаты, выкладывая пиратский контент. А с кредитными платежами от радара вряд ли уйдешь.
Мы всегда заботимся о обратной связи.
Мы используем Биткойн, потому что, как уже упоминалось, это юридически менее проблематично, у Биткойна есть более дешевые сборы, и мы автоматизируем все и с помощью платежей по кредитным картам, всегда есть что-то, что вам нужно сделать вручную.
Цитата: Иван Фалафель
фига се, неожиданно)
Hey camshowhub,
Thank you for your detailed explanation
In this translation
But apparently they can not optimize the DB for them, so they turn the nuts. mb will be returned as it was, if the solution is not effective.
i just tried to explain the reason of hiding screencaps, so as i thought, it was optimisation thing. But my fault was that i mixed all issues (including DB problems) into one and named them as optimisation problems. My knowledge is really poor about such huge systems. Sorry if i offend you saying about low skill. I just wanted to say that in such huge project is really hard or impossible to predict bugs or mistakes. In my newbie's opinion you should be really super skilled and experienced for that and i wish you will be so ;)
Btw guys, if you read this thread, can you please give us opportunity to renew subscription without creating new one? It would be really great to see what i downloaded earlier with fogged pic as it is now for active subscription.
Не волнуйтесь, мы просто хотели убедиться в этом.
Мы думали о том, чтобы сделать учетные записи расширяемыми, но мы реально взломали вас.
Но мы работаем над возможностью загрузки старых учетных записей.]
Цитата: Иван Фалафель
Цитата: orwell1984
otherwise, maybe it would be better to let camshowhub register here as an exception
да я не особо жду ответа, можно и молча реализовать) почта и твиттер у них, к сожалению, перестал читаться. ну, или мне не везло. а тут стоит ловить момент
Все предыдущие адреса электронной почты были заблокированы.
Если вы напишете нам в twitter, мы ответим.
Hello forumsmotri people, we saw your discussion about us at 4080-pomogite-skachat-vidos#com3539 and actually tried to join you there, but noticed you have a closed registration, so, we will talk to you like this ;)
First of all, thanks to Ivan Falafel for getting the facts straight.
These are translated quotes from the user Ivan Falafel (if you don't want us to quote you, please contact us and we will remove them)
the traffic that was a year ago, and that they have gone now (even for the same queries in this topic can be seen), disproportionately higher. Moreover, I began to notice them already in search engines, i.e. began to be indexed.
We are having a tremendously hard time getting crawlers to actually index us, simply due to the huge volumes of page additions and removals, that they seem to think something strange is going on.
On the bare enthusiasm, it is unlikely that anyone will want to support all this, it was possible to understand both the introduction of mining and paid subscriptions
The project primary goal is: change the game of how webcam models perceive recorded shows of them, not as something negative rather than something that could help them instead of being everywhere, yet completely useless to them as they got nothing from it.
Because this would also lead to the fact the we could become the one stop source for every user seeking for any show from any model.
So it would be a win-win-win situation.
But apparently they can not optimize the DB for them, so they turn the nuts. mb will be returned as it was, if the solution is not effective.
To be honest, the translation doesn't make much sense, but about the optimization part: it's not an optimization problem, we build our own back-end systems which includes also our own database engine based on PostgreSQL and that it a huge amount of work and since we are also the only user of that engine, if we don't detect a bug before putting it in production, well, bad things happen.
given that they have for the last 2 months already three times database drizzled, apparently they do not maintain the load at first screenshots generation auto-update was changed to 5 minutes, now and decided to hide at all
As mentioned before, that is not a load or optimization problem, rather than critical bugs, we haven't caught before they went into the production system.
The video page refresh rate was an optimization, we run the screencap servers in an interval and batch requests to run them more efficiently, by expanding the time, we can utilize the servers better and don't have you think its only going to take a minute to generate screencaps for a 4 gig video.
We decided to hide everything because we saw a huge amount of scrapers start to take advantage of our huge dataset and this could have ended in a lot sites with bad intentions that only came to life because of us, which is not something we wanted to accept.
This might be just a minimal help, but if you get a volume account and don't drain it to 0, you can use it forever to view images (except if you use it to scrape us too, then you are going to get banned)
Apparently, they could not optimize. I do not think that there is a question of money and lust for money. Just not enough knowledge and skills, I think.
As mentioned at the start, we do this because we want to change things, if it was about the money, we wouldn't have started this project in the first place as it is quite expensive to store so vast amounts of data and we do not expect the project to become profitable anytime soon for us.
I would like to argue that we are skilled, maybe not the best skilled ones, but we do have a background in what we do, but we took a very radical approach when starting this project and that is developing every system we need on our own instead of trying to get 3rd party software to work together also because to run this project more cost effective.
We like to discuss things, so if you would like to ask us anything, feel free to contact us.
We hope you have fun and find what you are looking for.
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